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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Is Jake Guentzel worth the money? Is Jake Guentzel worth the money?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
Does this really need to be asked?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Does this really need to be asked?
- jmatchett383


After reading some of the Penguins Facebook comments... yep. Saw a handful of armchair GMs who were convinced they would have signed him for under 5 mil a year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
After reading some of the Penguins Facebook comments... yep. Saw a handful of armchair GMs who were convinced they would have signed him for under 5 mil a year.
- Guile


They must all be from Cleveland.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Dec 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
Anybody complaining about this deal should revisit their complaints when the crop of rfas all sign...Pittsburgh was smart to get it done in advance. Me thinks in 7 to 10 months this deal looks amazing for the Pens.

I'll pay for a guy who has proven performance in the playoffs when it matters anyday over some of the regular season stars who wilt under the bright lights
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
They must all be from Cleveland.
- jmatchett383

This comment is actually hilarious to me on a personal level

I lived in PGH for a hot minute and my roomie was from Cleveland, and a huge Pens homer but he's absolutely clueless in every way about everything

Also, this contract is a steal. Buffalo wishes we signed Reinhart to a similar one but alas, he got the bridge deal of doom.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
It's a good, unspectacular deal. Jake is a good player who's worth 6 mil and won't even be thirty by the time the deal is done. It shouldn't be in danger of becoming a bad contract throughout its duration.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's a good, unspectacular deal. Jake is a good player who's worth 6 mil and won't even be thirty by the time the deal is done. It shouldn't be in danger of becoming a bad contract throughout its duration.
- Victoro311


Way to jinx it.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Dec 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Good deal
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
This comment is actually hilarious to me on a personal level

I lived in PGH for a hot minute and my roomie was from Cleveland, and a huge Pens homer but he's absolutely clueless in every way about everything

Also, this contract is a steal. Buffalo wishes we signed Reinhart to a similar one but alas, he got the bridge deal of doom.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Poor Rhino
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
It's a good, unspectacular deal. Jake is a good player who's worth 6 mil and won't even be thirty by the time the deal is done. It shouldn't be in danger of becoming a bad contract throughout its duration.
- Victoro311


This ^^

It's a fair deal. Not a steal, not stealing. Given the length and age of the player, no looming cap ramifications down the road.

If he was UFA, would've been happy with the same deal coming to my team, wishing could've gotten a tad cheaper, but overall acceptable.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Poor Rhino
- RhinoFan

Buffalo's current favorite whipping boy

He's turning into a .ppg player

He isn't flashy, he doesn't have a killer shot, and he gets knocked off the puck to easily sometimes because he's a perimeter player.

But a #2 overall becoming a .ppg player by his 4th season is all we could have asked for.

In all honesty, when his bridge deal is up, I could see PGH as a potential landing spot for him if only for the Botterill connection. We will see what happens at the end of next season, but he is going to be looking for a 7+ million dollar contract if he stays at around a .ppg pace.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
not much space to sign players this off season. I assume brassard is leaving?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 28 @ 3:47 PM ET
not much space to sign players this off season. I assume brassard is leaving?
- jmdodgeser4


Assuming the cap increase... we will have around 8 mil for just a few players. 3rd line center being the biggest find. Defense is signed, top 6 is signed. I think the top 6 wingers also signed, maybe even all 8.

We are still heavy on money for the D, but we are okay for next season... assuming JR doesn't do anything crazy.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Assuming the cap increase... we will have around 8 mil for just a few players. 3rd line center being the biggest find. Defense is signed, top 6 is signed. I think the top 6 wingers also signed, maybe even all 8.

We are still heavy on money for the D, but we are okay for next season... assuming JR doesn't do anything crazy.

- Guile


Yup. 3C is probably the only thing they'll need to find outside the system. Judging by the additions of Riikola and Pettersson, I have a feeling Maatta could be moved.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 28 @ 4:01 PM ET
Yup. 3C is probably the only thing they'll need to find outside the system. Judging by the additions of Riikola and Pettersson, I have a feeling Maatta could be moved.
- madmike71



Or Jack Johnson, fingers crossed.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Does this really need to be asked?
- jmatchett383


Dude from Pittsburgh hockey now, Dan Kingerski or whatever said it’s a big risk and a gamble of a contract. Dudes a (frank)ing joke.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
Or Jack Johnson, fingers crossed.
- Guile


I was going to write that, but just deleted it because it's probably impossible to move his contract.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
I think the big question is does Grinder think Jake is worth the money?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:27 PM ET
Or Jack Johnson, fingers crossed.
- Guile

Haha would be nice. And from the last thread with having Pearson twice I had him showing that either the acquisition or Pearson could play 3rd or 2nd line LW. Just like I had Horn and Rust interchangeable.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:29 PM ET
I think the big question is does Grinder think Jake is worth the money?
- Feds91Stammer

Lol
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Dec 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
Or Jack Johnson, fingers crossed.
- Guile


Maybe it’s just me, but I feel jack johnson has been a little better since the pens little surge. I’m cautiously optimistic they could trade him if JR wanted to
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 28 @ 7:07 PM ET
Maybe it’s just me, but I feel jack johnson has been a little better since the pens little surge. I’m cautiously optimistic they could trade him if JR wanted to
- drummer829


It’s the Pettersson effect. He’s such a stable dman he’s been able to minimize JJ’s terrible play.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
I was going to write that, but just deleted it because it's probably impossible to move his contract.
- madmike71


I mean we got lehtera. So anything is possible
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Dec 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
so that leaves you with 5 mil to sign about 9 contracts next year?
as per capfriendly
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